25 thoughts on “11.11.11”

  1. Figgin’ Brits. Messing up calendar dates, driving on the wrong side of the road, adding extraneous letters into words, using twice the voltage that we use, speaking like household servants and/or secret agents, etc…just who the heck do they think they are? 😉

  2. That’s not very nieghbourly 🙂 This stuff about driving on the left is like the prejudice against people who are left handed. 🙂

    • Well, I’m slightly deaf in my right ear. I call it my wife ear, so I don’t think I ever want to drive where the passenger sits on my left…

  3. It will be a long time before Americans get the date right again.

    We spel werds diffrent course we can spel propper.

    And we use double the voltage because we’re tough enough to handle it.

    Have I just started a war?

    • rikkochet: y’might have started a war, but (as usual), it’ll be up to us Yanks to finish it for ya…whether you like the outcome or not. 😉

      Check the score board for British/American conflicts. I believe it says:

      Great Britain – 0
      United States of America – 2

      That’s just in case you lost count. 🙂

      • The International view of the score board for US/GB conflicts says:

        War of Independence: US win
        War of 1812: US humiliation

        Both times the Brits burned your capital, and the US never managed to take the battle to GB home soil.

      • Just in case you are stupid. Canada (while still kinda/sorta Great Britain) burnt down the White House in the War of 1812. Oh, that’s the one they don’t teach you about.
        Canada – 1
        United States of America – 0

        I’m counting. 🙂

        • Actually, eyeball counted the War of 1812 as a US victory over GB. Yes, we lost the Executive Mansion (as it was known then), but we rebuilt it.

          • The US “never managed to the the battle to GB home soil” because the food is horrible. We’re more than capable of going to France, though. We’ve been there before – don’t expect much resistance (nobody invading France encounters much resistance. Oh, except the British).

            Yes, I was referring to the War of 1812. We kicked you out again (so I count that as a “win”). So what if the Executive Building got burned down? You Brits are more than welcome to do it again. Really. We’ll even bring the kerosene this time.

            And Grumpy – as long as your Head of State is the Queen (or King, if Liz ever steps down) of England, you’re right along with Scotland as being part of Great Britain. Other countries shook off the Royals generations ago. Why are you still holding on to them? What have they done for you lately?

            I still think the scoreboard is accurate: GB – 0, USA – 2 And you can see that we don’t have a King of Queen to bow down to. 🙂

            • The war of 1812 was caused by the US invading Canada with the intention of annexing land. They thought the timing was perfect because Britain was distracted by a life-and-death struggle with Napoleon over in Europe.

              They got it wrong. Canada, with help from Britain, kicked the US out.

              The war cost the US over $100 million, thousands of its citizens died needlessly and it achieved not an inch of territorial gains.

              By any objective measure, you lost.

              The US was taught a lesson that it has remembered. It never again dared to show aggression against Britain.

              • Really? You really think so?
                England was holding a grudge against America because of the War of Independence. They didn’t want America (as a sovereign country) trading with France (even though, as a Sovereign nation, we had every right to trade with which ever country we wanted), so they blockaded major American ports. Both sides engaged in raiding each others’ ships. Britain even raided American ships, looking for deserters from their Navy, and “recovering” British sailors who’d become Naturalized American citizens. Britain was actively involved (supplying weapons) with supporting American Indian tribes in their battles against American expansionism in what is now the upper midwest of the US (looks like we got some real estate out of that deal).
                Invading Canada wasn’t really “expansionism”…it was meant as a bargaining tool to keep Britain from dealing with the Indians (and in the long run, it worked – didn’t it?).
                The US was more concerned with being able to expand into regions such as Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin, without British influence and encouragement with the native tribes of the area (predating the concept of “Manifest Destiny”). When the dust settled from the War of 1812, the British government basically left the Indians to fend for themselves. THAT’s what the US really wanted. Annexing Canada was just a bargaining tool (and it worked). It was a sloppy tactic, though. So, even though it cost over $100M, and thousands of lives, the US got what it was really after – the “right” to expand further west, to the Mississippi River.

                (Still thinking the scoreboard is correct) 🙂

  4. Eyeball, sure we needed help. If the US had been in the same position, they’d have needed it too.

    We are an island, and a small one at that – about the same land area as Michigan – and we have to import a lot.

    During the war, virtually every drop of oil we used was brought in by ship. Same for food, materials, ammunition, medical supplies…..the list is endless.

    We had convoys sailing to places like Halifax. Some arrived. Laden, the survivors sailed for England. Some arrived. Then they unloaded and sailed again. Many never finished the second trip.

    We were hungry – it was 1947 before I knew what a banana or orange tasted like – and scared because we never knew when or where the next bombs would land.

    I will never forget looking out of my bedroom window and seeing a red glow in the sky. That was London burning, just 15 miles away. And it was not just one night, it went on for months.

    Yes, we needed help, but we had the courage to admit it, and the guts to ask for it.

    Those of us who were around then appreciate the help we got. What we don’t like is the way some Americans try to make out they fought the entire war single-handed.

    • I don’t know…obviously no American or British beer, or Canadian, Japanese, Navajo, French, Br Empire, Russian…do they brew beer in Antarctica?…

      • Come on now, DJ…Japanese beer is great – especially if served by a beautiful Japanese woman. I’m sure you wouldn’t turn one (the beer! the beer!) if it (the beer! the beer!) was offered that way. 😉

  5. rikkochet – I’m not saying that the US single-handedly won WWII. I never even mentioned WWII. However, in that war, our countries were united against a common enemy. It’s all well-and-good, until Germany starts a ruckus. We try flicking the light switch on and off, but they just won’t listen. Chamberlain should have told Hitler to knock it off…but no. Like giving the schoolyard bully your milk money, he “gave” the Sudetenland to Germany…hoping Hitler would be his buddy.

    But I digress. I was trying to illustrate (mostly to Not A Brit and grumpy – who resorted to calling me stupid, I guess) that the War of 1812 resulted in the US getting just about everything they wanted out of the whole thing (for Britain to stop assisting the Indian tribes of the midwest; to stop the practice of “impressment” – boarding American vessels and removing all crew who either were British citizens or Naturalized American citizens and removing the blockades of American ports). Heck, we even managed to steal a British drinking song for our National Anthem. Without British interference with the Indians of the mid-west, America was able to expand territory to the Mississippi River. As I said before, the tactic of “invading” Canada was a poorly conceived idea of trying to get Britain out of American interests on the North American continent. Burning down the Executive Building does NOT give anybody a victory. War isn’t fought and won like that (otherwise, war would be pretty simple, wouldn’t it?).

    Anyway, I’m not trying to give anybody a history lesson, although a few people (ahem) seem to need one.

  6. Eyeball, I know you didn’t make that ridiculous claim, but a few days ago I had an American bragging about how the “thousands of US fighter pilots won the Battle of Britain”.

    Regarding 1812, I wonder if many men on either side wanted to fight. The politicians started it, officers would have obeyed orders, but the soldier who had to do the fighting probably wanted no part in it.

    Many Americans had come from Britain; many British had relatives in America. I would not be surprised to find that more shots were deliberately aimed to miss than were aimed to kill.

  7. well, rikkochet, the American who bragged of the US pilots who won the Battle of Britain is (you guessed it) an idiot. National pride and bravado are one thing, but it catches people up in the dumbest statements you’re ever likely to hear.

    You’re right, though. The War of 1812 was unpopular, in both Britain and America. Obviously, Canada wasn’t too keen on it, either.

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